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- From: Gemini2@cup.portal.com (Gary Alan Peake)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: The March Amiga?
- Date: 31 Jan 1996 21:20:10 -0800
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- >GP> So, we are 'positive' that they were cut because sales didn't measure up?
- >GP> Or was it because C= UK was a seperate entity until being bought by Amiga
- >GP> Tech? And being the rebels that bid against them, AT cut them? It happens
- >GP> in business. Buy up the bad boys and then cut them out...
- >
- >But weren't C=UK and ATUK completely different entities, with little
- >but not much crossing between employees of one and employees of the
- >other? After all, Davey Boy Pleasance isn't employed by ATUK, is he?
-
- No, but he wasn't the ONLY C=UK employee.
-
- >GP> I understand. BUT, to hear Eric saying that 'many' people don't think
- >GP> Amiga Tech has a plan is ludicrous to me. Hell, there aren't 'many' people
- >GP> here.
- >
- >"Many" is technically more than two, Gary. Let's see, there's me,
- >Paul, Byron...that's more than two right there. Therefore, "many" is
- >being used correctly. Logic chip on standby...
-
- Well you are 'technically' correct, but not morally correct with that word.
- Many conjures images of 'several, most, etc' and there ain't but THREE of
- ya!!! :)
-
- >GP> And is this not what Amiga Technologies is doing? Upgrading the initial
- >GP> product and keeping it aimed at the same, first time buyers?
- >
- >A blind man has the inability to aim unless he's some sort of Zen
- >master, Gary. And without marketing, they're pushing those 1200s
- >blind.
-
- Sheee-it!!! Market what? There's nothing to market! Amiga Technologies
- hasn't even started trying to really fill demand here in the US! Let em get
- the backorders filled and something out there to market first!
-
- >Gilles was on TV in Germany, I believe. Paul was citing Britain, one
- >of the two prime Amiga markets. Guess that AT, like certain elements
- >of the Tory party, don't have that "EU Mentality". And I don't count
- >Amiga mags as marketing. I call that "preaching to the converted".
-
- You ever read any PC mags?
-
- >The price was UKP100 higher than before. That's a 33% increase. Not
- >even in Britain does inflation run at 33% a year. Also, as Paul said
- >in another post, some shops there were dumping 1200s at UKP99.
- >
- >2) Bundle. The games were pathetic.
- >
- GP> Can't judge ... have only played a few in my whole lifetime (43 years).
- >
- >Well, there was the Scala mess-up as well.
-
- What Scala mess up? Tell us how gory and sadistic it was.
-
- >3) Hardware. The disk drive fiasco wasn`t good. For the few Amigans who
- >actually thought about getting an A1200, the disk drive problem scared
- >them off.
- >
- GP> Why? I like being able to buy a computer with any size hard drive I want.
- >
- >Paul said that he was talking about the DD/HD floppy imbroglio.
- >However, we're not going to get back on to that hard drive thing again,
- >Gary, are we? That's where we started on this almost six months ago,
- >for God's sake.
-
- And I still like the idea of upgrading MY way!
-
- >BBEEEPPP! No way are AT going to get an Internet package into the
- >mainstream UK market without:
- >
- >1. The right price
- >2. A dedicated Amiga service provider who can help you set up.
- >3. Good software + hardware.
- >
- GP> And we are soon to see if you and Eric or us 'apologists' are right.
- >
- >Regrettably, the odds seem to be improving on our stance every day,
- >Gary. Believe me, I don't want to see AT fail outright, but they seem
- >to be setting themselves up for failure.
-
- How so? I think that they are following their own plan right down to the
- letter and in the end we are going to have something to be proud of!
-
- >GP> Why can't we wait till it gets here before we start bitchin'?
- >
- >Because we're fed up with incompetence by the people who own our
- >system, and we want to broadcast warnings prior to possible movements.
- >Santayana, Gary...
-
- Have you tried a personal email to any of the Amiga Technologies folks? One
- that is rational, constructive, with 'factual' information ... not full of
- inuendo's and projections?
-
- >They may do, but their Escom masters may not think that way if AT starts
- >to cut deeply into Escom`s profits.
- >
- >GP> But, have they? I don't think so ... at least, not yet!
- >
- >Not yet. That's the point. The problem is that AT or Escom seems
- >unwilling to put any money into marketing the Amiga. Do you think that
- >Manfred couldn't have put out a fax to all his stores saying "Look,
- >this system is owned by one of our subsidiaries. Display it properly
- >and push it. If you need help with it, call the Escom HQ in your
- >country and they'll help you."? That's virtually free marketing, but,
- >as lots of our UK bretheren said, 1200s were languishing in boxes in
- >Escom stores.
-
- Jiminy Xmas, Eric!!! First the two of you whine about Escom not even being
- willing to sell Amiga computers. Dr Kittel gave you/us
- their reasons (basically the ignorance of the sales staff concerning the
- Amiga) for staying away from the Escom Stores. Too much whining and dancing
- later, Amiga Technologies gives in and tries it ... bombed out JUST LIKE
- THEY SAID IT WOULD!
-
-
- Gary
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